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Finding and judging a factory in China

How to tell a factory from a trading company

The chat sounds like a factory. Then nobody can change the mold, because they do not own it.

Jose, CEO at Stonedove

The messages were fast and confident. The price was low. I thought I had found the maker. A problem showed up in the sample, and the person on the chat had to “check with the factory.” That was the whole reveal. I had been paying for control I did not have.

A trader is not a scam. A surprise is.

Plenty of honest companies in China buy from factories and sell to overseas brands. They can be useful when you want one contact and you accept that they sit between you and the line. The expensive mistake is expecting factory price and factory control from a catalog.

Control means someone can change the tool, the material, and the packing line without asking a third person who may not care about your order. If that person does not exist in the building you think you hired, your deposit bought a promise.

I sort every new contact into three piles: maker, trader, or unclear. Unclear is not a yes. It is a reason to keep asking.

Ask about this product, not their slogan

“We are a professional manufacturer with many years” shows up so often I barely read it. It does not tell me who owns the machines. I ask about the object in front of us.

Answers that classify people

What happens in your building?

A useful answer
We mold it and pack it here
A weak answer
We can supply everything

What do you buy from outside?

A useful answer
Printed boxes, from this vendor
A weak answer
All in house, no detail

Who employs the people on the line?

A useful answer
We do
A weak answer
Our partner handles production

Can I see today’s work?

A useful answer
A video with today’s date on a note
A weak answer
A catalog photo of a clean lobby

Vague pride is not data. A person who can walk from raw material to a packed carton, and name what they do not make themselves, is usually standing in a real process. A person who has to leave the chat to answer basic process questions is often standing in a trading office.

Names, photos, and a catalog that is too wide

I ask for the legal name and compare it with the name on the invoice and the bank account. A trade name that differs from the license can be normal. A refusal to show any legal name is not. You will want that name if something goes wrong.

Photos of a lobby do not count. I want the step my product needs: the mold press, the cutting table, the packing line. A short video is better than a gallery. Watch whether the person filming knows where to stand. Stock footage of machines is everywhere.

A catalog that still looks like one factory
The product you actually wantMain work
Nearby products, same processBelievable
Unrelated categoriesA warning

Example only. Your numbers will be different.

A silicone shop can also make a few other silicone goods. A “factory” that lists wigs, power tools, and furniture under one contact is a storefront. Specialists still have a range. The warning is range with no shared process.

If you visit, skip the showroom

A tour that stays in the showroom answered the wrong question. I look for unfinished goods, material on the floor, and a person who can explain a defect without fetching a manager. The showroom is where every company looks the same.

  1. 1Find work in progressHalf-made goods tell you more than a wall of finished samples.
  2. 2Ask about a flawA maker can say what caused it. A trader often says it will be perfect next time.
  3. 3If you cannot goPay someone to walk the building, or keep the first order small enough that a wrong guess does not sink you.

Price will not tell you who owns the machines. The cheapest quote is often the one with the most people between you and the line. That gap is where specs get swapped.

This is the same path we run in the Amazon Selling System. You approve the product, the factory, and the launch. We do the work.

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